Honor . . .Righteousness . . .

 

One of the challenges of memorizing versus of the Bible is the wording, it does not seem natural.  However, this does depend on the version of the Bible one is memorizing.  I chose the ESV because it is more of word for word translation.  The NIV might be closer to our today’s vernacular.

Ephesians 6:1–4 (ESV)

Children and Parents

Children, obey your parents in the Lord, for this is right. “Honor your father and mother” (this is the first commandment with a promise), “that it may go well with you and that you may live long in the land.” Fathers, do not provoke your children to anger, but bring them up in the discipline and instruction of the Lord.

Exodus 20:12 (ESV)

Exodus 20:12 (NIV)

Deuteronomy 5:16 (ESV)

Deuteronomy 5:16 (NIV)

12 “Honor your father and your mother, that your days may be long in the land that the Lord your God is giving you.

12 “Honor your father and your mother, so that you may live long in the land the Lord your God is giving you.

16 “ ‘Honor your father and your mother, as the Lord your God commanded you, that your days may be long, and that it may go well with you in the land that the Lord
your God is giving you.

16 “Honor your father and your mother, as the Lord your God has commanded you, so that you may live long and that it may go well with you in the land the Lord
your God is giving you.

 

 

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Are we good neighbors . . .?

I thought The Good Samaritan parable was a good one for this time of year.  Even though it is only told in the Gospel of Luke, even the different Bible translations still paint a slightly different perspective on the parable.  I use the yellow to try and draw

attention to similarities or differences in the stories.  I find it interesting how the term for an expert in the law is used  in one version, lawyer in another and legal expert in another.  God Bless.

Luke 10:25–37 (NIV)

The Parable of the Good

Samaritan

25 On one occasion an expert in the law stood up to test Jesus.

“Teacher,” he asked, “what must I do to inherit eternal life?”

26 “What is written in the

Law?” he replied. “How do

you read it?”

27 He answered, “ ‘Love the Lord

your God with all your heart and with all your soul and with all your

strength and with all your mind’; and, ‘Love your neighbor as yourself.’”

28 “You have answered

correctly,” Jesus replied. “Do this and you will live.”

29 But he wanted to justify himself, so he asked Jesus, “And who is my neighbor?”

30 In reply Jesus said: “A man was going down from Jerusalem to Jericho, when he

was attacked by robbers. They stripped him of his clothes, beat him and went away, leaving him half dead. 31 A priest happened to be going down the same road, and when he saw the man, he passed by on the other side. 32 So too, a Levite, when he came to the place and saw him, passed by on the other side. 33 But a Samaritan, as he traveled, came where the man was;

and when he saw him, he took pity on him. 34 He went to him and bandaged his wounds, pouring on oil and

wine. Then he put the man on his own donkey, brought him to an inn and took care of him. 35 The next day

he took out two denarii and gave them to the innkeeper. ‘Look after him,’ he

said, ‘and when I return, I will reimburse you for any extra expense you may have.’

36 “Which of these three do you think was a neighbor to the man who fell into the hands of robbers?”

37 The expert in the law replied, “The one who had mercy on him.”

Jesus told him, “Go and do  likewise.”

Luke 10:25–37 (ESV)

The Parable of the Good Samaritan

25 And behold, a lawyer stood up to put him to the test, saying, “Teacher,

what shall I do to inherit eternal life?” 26 He said

to him, “What is written in the Law? How do you read

it?” 27 And he answered, “You shall love the

Lord your God with all your heart and with all your soul and with all your

strength and with all your mind, and your neighbor as yourself.” 28 And

he said to him, “You have answered correctly; do

this, and you will live.”

29 But he, desiring to justify himself, said to Jesus, “And who is my neighbor?” 30 Jesus replied, “A

man was going down from Jerusalem to Jericho, and he fell among robbers, who

stripped him and beat him and departed, leaving him half dead. 31 Now by chance a priest was going down that road, and when he saw him he passed by on the other side. 32 So likewise a Levite, when he came to the place and saw

him, passed by on the other side. 33 But a Samaritan, as he journeyed, came to where he was, and

when he saw him, he had compassion. 34 He went to him and bound up his wounds, pouring on oil and

wine. Then he set him on his own animal and brought him to an inn and took

care of him. 35 And the

next day he took out two denarii and gave them to the innkeeper, saying,

‘Take care of him, and whatever more you spend, I will repay you when I come back.’ 36 Which of

these three, do you think, proved to be a neighbor to the man who fell among the robbers?” 37 He said, “The one who showed him mercy.” And Jesus said to him, “You go, and do likewise.”

Luke 10:25–37 (NASB95)

25 And a lawyer

stood up and put Him to the test, saying, “Teacher, what shall I do to inherit eternal

life?” 26 And He said to him, “What is

written in the Law? How does it read to you?”

27 And he answered, “You shall love the Lord your God with all

your heart, and with all your

soul, and with all your

strength, and with all your

mind; and your neighbor as

yourself.”

28 And He said to him, “You have answered correctly; do this and you will live.”

29 But wishing to justify himself, he said to Jesus, “And who is my neighbor?”

The Good Samaritan

30 Jesus replied and said, “A man was going down from Jerusalem to Jericho, and fell among robbers, and they

stripped him and beat him, and went away leaving him half dead.

31 “And by

chance a priest was going down on that road, and when he saw him, he passed

by on the other side.

32 “Likewise a Levite also, when he came to the place and saw him, passed by on the other side.

33“But a Samaritan, who was on a journey, came upon him; and when he saw him, he felt

compassion,

34 and came to him and bandaged up his wounds, pouring oil and wine on them; and he put him on his own beast, and brought him to an inn and took care of him.

35 “On the

next day he took out two denarii and gave them to the innkeeper and said,

‘Take care of him; and whatever more you spend, when I return I will repay

you.’

36 “Which of these three do you

think proved to be a neighbor to the man who fell into the robbers’ hands?

37 And he said, “The one who showed mercy toward him.” Then Jesus said to him, “Go and do the same.”

Luke 10:25–37 (LEB)

The Parable of the Good Samaritan

25 And behold, a certain legal expert stood up to test him, saying,

“Teacher, what must I do so that I will inherit eternal life?” 26 And he said to him, “What is written in the law? How do you read it?”* 27 And he answered and* said, “You shall love the Lord your God from all your heart, and with all your soul, and with all your strength, and with all your mind, and your neighbor as yourself.” 28 And he said to him, “You have answered correctly. Do this and you will live.”

29 But he, wanting to justify

himself, said to Jesus, “And who is my neighbor?” 30 And Jesus replied and* said,

“A certain man was going down from Jerusalem to

Jericho, and fell into the hands of robbers, who both stripped him and beat him.* After* inflicting blows on him,* they went away, leaving him* half dead. 31 Now by coincidence a

certain priest was going down on that road, and when he* saw him, he passed

by on the opposite side. 32 And in the same way also a Levite, when he*

came down to the place and saw him,* passed by on the opposite side. 33 But a certain Samaritan who was traveling came up to him and, when he* saw him,*

had compassion. 34 And he came up and* bandaged his wounds, pouring on

olive oil and wine, and he put him on his own animal and* brought him to an inn and took care of him. 35 And on the next day, he took out two  denarii and* gave them* to the innkeeper, and said, “Take care of him, and whatever you spend in addition, I will repay to you when I return. 36 Which

of these three do you suppose became a neighbor of the man who fell among the  robbers?” 37 So he said, “The one who showed mercy to him.” And Jesus said to him, “You go and do

likewise.”

Resurrection of Jesus . . .harmonized

 

Matthew 28:9–10 (NIV)
Suddenly Jesus met them. “Greetings,” he said. They came to him, clasped his feet and worshiped him. 10 Then Jesus said to them, “Do not be afraid. Go and tell my brothers to go to Galilee; there they will see me.”
Mark 16:9–13 (NIV)
9 When Jesus rose early on the first day of the week, he appeared first to Mary Magdalene, out of whom he had driven seven demons. 10 She went and told those who had been with him and who were mourning and weeping. 11 When they heard that Jesus was alive and that she had seen him, they did not believe it.
12 Afterward Jesus appeared in a different form to two of them while they were walking in the country. 13 These returned and reported it to the rest; but they did not believe them either.
Luke 24:1–8 (NIV)
Jesus Has Risen
24:1–10pp—Mt 28:1–8; Mk 16:1–8; Jn 20:1–8
24 On the first day of the week, very early in the morning, the women took the spices they had prepared and went to the tomb. 2 They found the stone rolled away from the tomb, 3 but when they entered, they did not find the body of the Lord Jesus. 4 While they were wondering about this, suddenly two men in clothes that gleamed like lightning stood beside them. 5 In their fright the women bowed down with their faces to the ground, but the men said to them, “Why do you look for the living among the dead? 6 He is not here; he has risen! Remember how he told you, while he was still with you in Galilee: 7 ‘The Son of Man must be delivered over to the hands of sinners, be crucified and on the third day be raised again.’ ” 8 Then they remembered his words.
John 20:14–16 (NIV)
14 At this, she turned around and saw Jesus standing there, but she did not realize that it was Jesus.
15 He asked her, “Woman, why are you crying? Who is it you are looking for?”
Thinking he was the gardener, she said, “Sir, if you have carried him away, tell me where you have put him, and I will get him.”
16 Jesus said to her, “Mary.”
She turned toward him and cried out in Aramaic, “Rabboni!” (which means “Teacher”).

I never dreamed this . . .but I did

I had this dream.  I was in an opinion debate with people close to me, but we have an estranged relationship now.  One of the participants said something, I don’t know what they said, it was a dream, but said it and danced it in a way and said something to the effect: “I am so good, I walk on water. . .”, that is how good my opinion is . . .”, it was a clear effort to make themselves superior.

I spit on the ground stepped on it and told him, so do I.

Update -Prayers for my Dad!

I was updated late yesterday on my dad.  He did not have a stroke but a seizure.  From what my daughter told me it seemed to be serious, she was scared.  He is resting and ok now.  It scared me too.  Thank you all for your prayers and best wishes.  God Bless!

I just received a phone call from my youngest daughter, Leanna.  She called to let me know that my dad has apparently had a very strong stroke or something similar.  He was on his bed and unresponsive.  911 was called and were there when I was talking to her.  I am waiting to hear back from her to where, if they are, taking my dad and what the plan is for my two kid living with my dad and his wife.

Please say a prayer for my dad, his wife and the rest of our family.  God Bless and Thank you.

 

 

The issue of parental authority . . .

I have to prerequisite this reply with this information. David is a friend from HS, who would of known we would reunite here, only God knows. Dave it’s good to be in touch with you again and look forward to more conversations.  This is the second response from David in regards to my post: Both Honor and be enemies …?

Hi Lee! The issue of parental authority is one of law, and has been from the beginning. The role of Father in the family has been under attack from the beginning, as well. The question of “who’s your daddy?” certainly applies here. The fact is, we’ve all been led astray by forces working against the family and through structures that have been built up in the imagination of fallen men, and not of God.

Each of the respondents below referred to context as being critical, and this is quite true. The context of Honoring one’s father and mother comes from Deut 5:16. The context has to do with remaining on the land that the Father in heaven was going to give to Abraham. The object of the promise is freedom, and dominion, and authority…..liberty…..the right to do as one pleases, without the hindrance of ill-advised contracts which subject oneself to foreign governments and their gods. God wants mankind to be free souls under Him, not subjects of a foreign god. Thou shalt have no other gods before me.

The ignorance of the law of the Father has brought the role of the Father into disrepute, and has caused the near annihilation of the family. Patrimonial rights have been surrendered from the very moments following the birth of our children. Find me a “minister” who can justify the process of Novation. That is, the process of signing over the authority of the role of Father to the State in the moments following the child’s birth. We have all been warned that Satan waits at the womb! You lost your parental rights when you ignorantly signed them over to the State. The State maintains a record of that forfeiture in their database. They gave you a copy of the Contract you signed. It’s called a Birth certificate. It is the first cord in a three-fold cord which is used to bind a child to the State from cradle to grave.

The Bible teaches us to Call no man on earth Father. This has nothing to do with Catholic priests, but everything to do with calling someone other than your bio-dad a father. You and I went to public school. We learned all about our Founding Fathers. These are the gods of this country. These are the ones that God said we are not to call father.

When Moses was born his mother sent the tiny tot down the river, just as you did with your own children. And, the daughter of Pharoah received the baby of the Hebrew woman and called for her, and told her to take the baby home and give it suck and when it was of age, she would take it back. Can you see the parallel between surrendering your child to the State at birth, and then taking it home and raising it up until it’s 18, and then sending them off to be ruled by the State? It’s no wonder that children are disobedient to the parents, instinctively they know they’ve been sold out…sent down the river!

There is a second cord that binds a child to the servitude of the State, rather than the Father, and that is the process called Tutor. That’s where I met you. We both had parents that participated in that sin. Tutor is “free” public education. The third cord that completely binds a child into servitude for life is called Corban. You can read about that at Mark 7:11. It is the exact same system today, as it was 2000 years ago. Today we refer to it as Social Security, and everyone has their SSN. Almost all the countries of the world have their own version of Social Security, and those that do not are presently at war with the USA. Those are countries which still maintained the role of the Father. By the way, in Canada, their program of Social Security is called Social Insurance. They quite candidly abbreviate their program as such, SIN. Gotta love the Canadians for their disclosure.

The Bible warns us about this three-fold cord which is not easily broken in Proverbs. Now you know what the process is to accomplish that object, and the goal is to destroy the role of Father, family, and freedom.

Yes, we must obey God rather than men, so why does anyone have a Social Security number? Why do they “vote” in an indirect democracy for men that call themselves Father, in a system with centralized top-down authoritative style government, who by design and stealth take children away from their families, and send them off to war, who have a central bank, and who plunder to poor, the widow, and the fatherless? Moses stood against such practices and would’ve body slammed everyone of the Founding Fathers for creating such a debauched system. The Prophet Samuel railed against such a corrupt system, and God told him that if the people wanted such a system it was because they had Rejected God, not Samuel. God told Samuel to go ahead and let them have their way, and that they would pay a heavy price for their disobedience. Such governments were abhorrent to Jesus, and he told His disciple, it shall not be so with you! He taught them to build a system of service from the bottom-up. The greatest amoung you shall be as the least, a servant of all.

Lee, if you want your children to be obedient to you, you need to be obedient to God. In order to do that you need to repent. Repent from the evil works that you and I were led into by those we trusted: our parents, teachers, government leaders, and “ministers”. We need to chart a new course and follow Christ. In order to accomplish that you will need divest yourself of the platitudes of modern day Churchianity, and the sophistry of seminarians and translators. You need to roll up your sleeves and get busy learning what no one else ever taught you before today. The leaders in the “church” so-called, have been blinded by their own ignorance, and are the modern shephards who flee when the enemy approaches, because the flock is not their own.

A man’s enemies are those of his own household, and of his own “church”, and community, because they’ve all gone astray from the womb, speaking the lies they were taught by well-meaning, but nevertheless ignorant people. No man can serve two master’s. And, those who try to walk in the camp of Saints and the world, will be torn asunder. The Church is not the State, and “ministers” alledgedly proclaiming Christ have NO authority under God to translate their congregations to the power and dominion of the State, which is what every single 501C3 “minister” does. These are State “churches”, State organizations, and they are silenced in their abilithy to speak out against the corruptions of the State, which include the destruction of the family….from the moment of the creation of the union of man and woman. ALL 501C3 “ministers” perform ceremonies of marriage by the “Power and Authority vested in me by the State of __________”. Your marriage License is on record with the State, is it not? Because of this your children, the fruit of your marriage, are also promised to the State. This is why the State can dictate how your children can be raised. They come into your home and dictate the care of their health, education, and welfare. You completed the necessary contracts to allow that to happen. Your trusted “minister”, ought not to have been trusted.

These “ministers” of 501C3 “churches” have no business telling anyone to be obedient to God, for they are the greatest offenders of that statement of all men. These are the hypocrites of our day. Ignorance of the law is no excuse.

In the day that Christ was beginning His ministry, there was a blind man from birth who was made to see by Jesus. His family was called to give an answer as to how it was that their son was made to see. Their answer was quite illustrative. You can read about that in John 9. The point of that was that if anyone was professing that Jesus was the Christ, they were agreed to put that man or woman out of the synogogue. It’s easy to see this incident as ex-communication, but, men forget that Isreal was a nation set apart by God. It was to be a “religious” example of how a nation was to live according to the dictates of God. When the leaders of the synogogue ex-communicated someone, they were actually expelling them from the benefits, privileges, and opportunities offered to them through the system of Health, Education, and Welfare they had set up in that nation. In fact, these people were being focibly ex-patriated. In the Greek Interlinear text of the NT, the word Father is often untranslated, from the Latin word Pater. It is where we get the words Patriate, ex-Patriate, and Patriotic. Are you a Patriot? Do you call upon the founding fathers of the nation, or upon the President to solve your troubles, or do you call upon Our Father which art in Heaven, whose name is hallowed? Who is your father?

There are MASSIVE problems in the modern “church”, old friend. The slumber of the “ministers” has caused the destruction of the Father, the family, and the nation.

However, Christ Jesus has given us a way out, and that is through Him. You may also want to read Galatians 4.

I recommend the following sources for further information and guidance:

George Ricker Berry Greek Interlinear

Strongs Concordance

Vine’s Expository Dictionary

In Caesar’s Grip, by Peter Kershaw

www.hisholychurch.info There is a specific article written addressing this very concern, Call no man Father

Blessings to you Lee! It’s been too long!

Blessings to all those who have ears to hear, and eyes to see. The time is very short.

David

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Do these verses seem contradictory to you?

Read this before you read the response below:  Both Honor and be enemies …?

Leland, the first rule of Biblical interpretation is to read each passage in it’s context. That is, to first understand who is speaking, to whom they are speaking, and what they are speaking about. While every passage of scripture is “God breathed” and is intended for our edification, not everything is addressed specifically to us today. Rather, it is meant that we will learn the precepts that God is teaching.

The first passage you quote is Jesus explaining to his disciples that he has not come at that time to bring a universal Messianic reign of peace. His point is that the Gospel will not be accepted by everyone and therefore it will cause division. He is not saying that he INTENDS for there to be division, but rather that he knows his message will offend those who do not receive it. This is a general principle that we call “the offense of the Gospel”.

In your quote from Ephesians, the Apostle Paul is instructing the church on precepts that bring order and blessing to life. He is explaining that we have a responsibility to remember the commandment to honor father and mother – because this is the one that specifically carries a promise of blessing. We learn that it is a vital precept to have an understanding of authority structures and to submit ourselves appropriately.

These are not in conflict, but rather are in fact different topics. Jesus is NOT commanding strife in a family. He is explaining that the Gospel will divide people. I will give you three examples:

1. In the first century many people were put out of the Synogogues for faith in Jesus as the true Messiah. This was a matter of social disgrace and shame. Some people were therefore abandoned by their adult children for it – in violation of the commandment. Until the destruction of the Jewish temple in AD 70, Jewish Christians were persecuted by Jewish non-believers with great hostility. The story of Paul the Apostle is just one of many such accounts.

2. When I first became a believer, my extended family rejected this. We had come from a religious tradition that did not fully accept the Bible as the word of God. Instead, our historical tradition held to many teachings of people in addition to the Bible. As a result of my stand on the Word of God alone – and salvation exclusively by faith in Christ, my family rejected me. I was once expelled from my Grandfather’s home for trying to explain the wonders that God had done in my life by faith in Christ. Some of my family grew very hostile to me; Not because I sought it, but because they refused to accept my beliefs. My own mother pled with me to come back to the family tradition and I told her I could not. She said “then you don’t love me”. To her, I was being hateful and unloving by my commitment to Christ.

3. In 1999 I met a Muslim from Afghanistan and we became good friends. I asked him if he had ever heard the Gospel or if he knew of Christian missionaries that had ever established a church in his country; I asked him to consider becoming a Christian. He said to me “you don’t understand, no matter how compelling the message of Jesus, I cannot.” I asked him “why?” and he said “to follow Jesus, I would have to deny my father and mother, my brothers and sisters; I would have to deny my entire nation and even deny myself!” I said “you have actually just quoted Jesus; and you are right”.

Now, I can also tell you that it is possible to honor your father and mother, even if they do reject you for your faith. I know people who have been blessed for doing so. I also know many who have later won their family to faith in Christ by their faithful commitment to honor.

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